Debating the Christians about the Claim of
the Trinity
It should be
said to the Christians: If you believe that God is made up of three persons:
the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and that they are of one essence:
Did you come by this claim of yours—that
God, the Father, is three persons in one essence—by way of scriptural fidelity
and obedience or by way of logic and analogy?
Then, if they say: We got it by adherence
to the text of the Gospels.
It should be said to them: then you must
not have any differences over it because no one who believes that differs over
the scripture.
And if they say: We got it by way of logic
and analogy.
It should be said to them: Then what is it
that requires your so-called God to be three persons, and not more than that?
Why is it only three?
Is that a logical necessity? Or is it
logical speculation?
If they say: It is a logical necessity.
It should be said to them: Then rational
people must necessarily differ over it, but what you say contradicts logical
necessity, in that you make three into one.
Then, if they say: By logical speculation.
It should be said to them: And what
information led you to it?
Is the one expressed in three, or are the
three confined in one?
On the contrary, one is inconsistent with
multiplicity. It is not possible for one to be two or three or…
How ignorant can one be of the
mathematical method! If a mistake is made in the first steps, one will most
probably get the final answer wrong.
This debate shows the enormity of these
Christians' disbelief. It clarifies that their idolatry is greater than the
idolatry of the Zoroastrians themselves, for their intent was to claim two
gods: the god of light and the god of darkness, but these Christians claim three.
Another
refutation based on the pure natural tendencies of man:
In the letter from al-Baqalani to the
Byzantine Emperor, Judge Abu Bakr appeared one day before the emperor, and he
saw with him some of his bishops and monks. So he joked, "How are you and
how are your wives and children?"
So the Byzantine was astonished at him and
said to him, "In the letter written by the one who sent you, it mentions
that you are a man of the world, more knowledgeable than the scholars of your
community! Do you not know that I hold these [men] above [having] wives and
children?" So, Judge Abu Bake replied, "You do not hold Allah
(Glorious & Exalted) above [having] wives and children, but you hold them
above it?"
How corrupt is their basic human nature that
has changed from pure monotheism into such deep disbelief and idolatry!
A
Debate about the Mythical Christian Claim of Incarnation
Incarnation,
in the Christian belief system, is: their claim that Allah, out of mercy and
compassion toward His servants, bestowed His word upon the Virgin Mary, this
word became flesh in her womb, and she bore a complete god, from a complete god
(according to their false claims and blasphemous lies).
Thus, it should be said to them: The word
bestowed upon the Virgin Mary by God, which became flesh in her womb, and
emerged a complete god (as they say)—is it of the same Divine Essence or is
this word an addition to it?
If they say: It is the same essence.
It should be said to them: Then, say,
"He bestowed Himself," don't say "His Word" (to rebuke them
and refute their lies).
If they say: The word is an addition to
the essence.
It should be said to them: Is it separate
from the essence or is it not separate?
If they say: It is separate.
It should be said to them: Then, you must
admit that the Divine Essence changes, because if something separated from it,
God cannot be described with the constitutive element of knowledge after it had
once been described as such.
And if they say: It is not separate.
It should be said to them: Then, it is
impossible for this word to be incarnate in Mary's womb, because one cannot
occupy the space of two, in accordance with their lies and to refute the lies,
myths and conjectures they claim.
A
Debate about the Christian Claim of the Sacrifice of Redemption
As we have
shown, the Christians believe that God became incarnate in the Messiah to
suffer humiliation, crucifixion, and execution for the sake of purifying and
saving humanity from the sin of their father, Adam (who ate from the tree),
which was passed down from generation to generation, including the prophets and
righteous men, as well as the Messiah before the crucifixion.
It should be said to them: This God, after
doing to himself what he did to himself, in terms of the humiliation and
denigration that you describe, for the sake of purifying you of sin and
transgression and from the vices of this world, it is strange that he does not
appear to have succeeded.
On the contrary, you continue as you were,
with the same human nature, you live, you sin, you violate prohibitions, you
kill and are killed, and you die, and everything happens to you that happens to
all human beings.
So, what kind of so-called 'purification'
do you claim for yourselves?
What about those people who come after
this supposed sacrifice?
What about the rest of the sins,
transgressions, and abominations you commit, especially during your so-called
'holidays' (Holy Days) and in your worship sessions that you take as a cover
for spreading fornication, tribulation, and licentiousness? May Allah save us
from the Christians' lies and blasphemy!
Debating
the Christians about Their Claim of the Crucifixion of God
As we have
shown, the Christians believe that the Messiah was crucified and executed.
It should be said to them: Either this
crucifixion and execution was misguided or it was guided.
It would be impossible for you to say that
this crucifixion was guided, since you declare those who did it to be
disbelievers. Because of this deed (as you claim), the Jews have incurred the
wrath and curse of God on themselves.
Therefore, the only thing left to say is
that it was misguided.
If you say that, you must therefore
believe that your God did something misguided, and in fact, you have said so in
your sacred scriptures.
This corruption and deviance in your
doctrine is only due to your lack of reason and your ignorance of what is in
those books.
A
Brief Summary of Other Debates with the Christians about Their Claim of the
Crucifixion of God
It should be
said to the Christians: You praise your system of law for being based on
forgiveness, yet you reject that Allah forgave Adam for eating from the tree.
You went so far as to exaggerate and make up myths about it, saying that all
the sons of Adam were imprisoned by the sin of their father Adam until they
were ransomed by the Messiah himself, despite your claim concerning his
divinity.
You found it so difficult to imagine your
Lord's forgiveness that you took vengeance against a god like Him, which you
call: God, the Son.
May Allah be exalted and His Holiness
glorified high above that which the transgressors say.
Here we have the ultimate example of
contradiction in such a wicked doctrine, which cannot be hidden from anyone of
pure, good nature and honest, straightforward reason.
To sum all of
this up, no one magnifies Allah (Glorious & Exalted) as He deserves to be
magnified, except the religion with which His Messenger, the Seal of the
Prophets, Muhammad (pbuh), came to purify all beliefs about Him, His Being, His
Attributes, and His Actions from all that is imperfect, debasing, or
blameworthy, and from anything that would not be acceptable to uncorrupted
human nature and reason.
Therefore, we ask: Why do we not apply the
definitive test, as mentioned by Shaikh Ahmad Deedat, who said: To the
followers of Jesus, son of Mary (peace be upon him), I say, "Why not apply
the definitive test that Jesus (pbuh) wanted to apply on anyone who claims
prophethood (if a prophet is true or not)? The Messiah, son of Mary (pbuh),
said, 'Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or
figs of thistles? * Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a
corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. * A good tree cannot bring forth evil
fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.' [Matthew 7:
16-18]"
The sheikh (may Allah have mercy on him)
said, "Why do you shy away from applying this test to the instructions of
Allah's Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)? For, we find in the Holy Quran a complete
message that fulfills that with which Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them)
came."
Then, present to them the testimony in
their own books. Bernard Shaw said, "If someone like Muhammad (pbuh)
assumed the absolute leadership of the world, he would have been able to solve
all the problems in the world and achieve peace and happiness, and the world is
in the most desperate need of them…" and others.
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